Story · Ajahn Brahm
The woman who fell asleep in the meditation hall
Content note: domestic abuse (mentioned)
The story — as told by Ajahn Brahm (verbatim captions)
I remember some years ago, somebody was just over there and they fell asleep during my talk and started snoring, really snoring loudly, and somebody woke them up. And I told them off afterwards, you shouldn't wake them up like that. We found out afterwards they were having horrendous domestic violence. And they came here, and they felt safe in this room. They felt so safe, they hadn't slept don't know how many days you can imagine with domestic violence, even if it's not happening to you right now the memory of that makes you so tense. You can't get a good night's sleep and they came here they felt so safe. It was the first time they've slept in I don't know how long. And I said, "let them sleep". If anyone snores here during one of my talks well done, let them sleep. You don't know where they've come from. At least they realize this feels a peaceful place and they're protected. They don't feel fear. That's actually why they slept.
▶ Watch Ajahn Brahm tell it from 48:03 (to 49:06)
A reflection (in the spirit of Ajahn Brahm's talk)
A woman broke every rule of the meditation hall, lying down with her feet toward the Buddha and snoring, and Ajahn Brahm said to let her sleep. She had found, for once, a place where she felt safe. Before you judge someone's manners, remember you don't know where they've come from. Real etiquette is making people feel safe.
In brief (our summary)
During Friday meditation a woman lies down, points her feet at the Buddha, falls asleep and snores — breaking every rule of etiquette — and neighbours wake her. Ajahn Brahm changes his talk: she was a victim of domestic violence who hadn't slept for days, and here, for the first time in weeks, she felt safe enough to relax.
Teaching point
Real etiquette is compassion and sensitivity, not rules that control people.
When this story may help
- domestic violence
- judging others
- exhaustion
- rules versus kindness
Themes
Source & credit
Told by Ajahn Brahm in Buddhism and Atheism | Ajahn Brahm | 16-04-2010 · 2010-04-17 · ▶ watch from 48:03 to 49:06 · Buddhist Society of Western Australia
19 other tellings of this story
- Kamma without Belief | by Ajahn Brahm | 06 January 2012 · 2012-01-07 · ▶ watch from 30:18 to 31:30 · Buddhist Society of Western AustraliaJan 2012 telling: someone tried to wake her; she had told him she was a victim of domestic abuse, too afraid to sleep at home; 'that was a mistake, never do that again'.
- 'Out of Control' | by Ajahn Brahm · 2012-06-27 · ▶ watch from 37:00 to 38:38 · Buddhist Society of Western Australia2012 telling: the woman fell asleep and snored during his talk; people woke her and he scolded them afterwards ('Next time bring your pillow and a blanket').
- Dealing with addictions | by Ajahn Brahm | 19 June 2015 · 2015-06-22 · ▶ watch from 41:35 to 42:27 · Buddhist Society of Western Australia2015 telling: '15–20 years ago'; three or four people woke her; she hadn't slept for weeks.
- Relax. Everything's out of control! | by Ajahn Brahm | 26 June 2015 · 2015-06-27 · ▶ watch from 14:13 to 15:39 · Buddhist Society of Western Australia
- Expectations Cause Suffering | Ajahn Brahm | 24 June 2022 · 2022-06-24 · ▶ watch from 39:32 to 40:44 · Buddhist Society of Western AustraliaJune 2022 telling: she had told him beforehand that she was a victim of severe domestic abuse; he asks people to bring a blanket or pillow next time.
- Forms of Love In Buddhism | Ajahn Brahm | 26-11-2010 · 2010-11-28 · ▶ watch from 46:37 to 47:53 · Buddhist Society of Western AustraliaNov 2010 telling: he 'told that person off' who woke her; she hadn't slept for days.
- Learn to Not Blame Yourself | Ajahn Brahm | 25 May 2018 · 2018-05-25 · ▶ watch from 18:28 to 20:20 · Buddhist Society of Western AustraliaMay 2018 telling: snoring 'like the Indian-Pacific at a crossing'; 'before we had the social services to assist'.
- How to Lessen the Stress | Ajahn Brahm | 29 March 2019 · 2019-03-29 · ▶ watch from 1:07 to 1:57 · Buddhist Society of Western Australia2019 brief telling: she fell asleep and snored during the meditation; he had to tell someone off for waking her.
- Power of Kindness | Ajahn Brahm | 22 October 2021 · 2021-10-22 · ▶ watch from 1:07:33 to 1:09:11 · Buddhist Society of Western Australia2021 Q&A telling: she lay down pointing her feet at the Buddha and snored; 'next time... get her a pillow and a little blanket'.
- Lower Your Expectations | Ajahn Brahm | 24 Nov 2017 · 2017-11-24 · ▶ watch from 10:50 to 12:14 · Buddhist Society of Western AustraliaNov 2017 telling: feet toward Buddha, asleep/snoring; others tell her off; Brahm takes them aside — horrendous domestic abuse; first place she felt safe.
- Why? Is an Important Question to Ask | Ajahn Brahm | 1 January 2021 · 2021-01-01 · ▶ watch from 10:46 to 13:13 · Buddhist Society of Western AustraliaJan 2021 New Year telling: domestic-abuse survivor; first place she could close her eyes in weeks; he tells the hall afterwards; from then on, sleeping in meditation is OK — just don't snore through his talks.
- Buddhist Values | Ajahn Brahm | 08-01-2010 · 2010-04-08 · ▶ watch from 20:40 to 21:23 · Buddhist Society of Western AustraliaJan 2010 telling: sleeper snoring at talk — trouble at home, first sleep in days; let them snore.
- Vibe | Ajahn Brahm | 20 October 2017 · 2017-10-20 · ▶ watch from 15:11 to 16:02 · Buddhist Society of Western AustraliaOct 2017 telling: domestic-abuse survivor sleeps/snores at talk — safe place.
- Justice | Ajahn Brahm | 14-10-2011 · 2011-10-15 · ▶ watch from 20:17 to 20:56 · Buddhist Society of Western AustraliaOct 2011 Justice: scolds the person who woke the snorer — domestically abused woman finally safe enough to sleep.
- Buddhism & Autonomy | Ajahn Brahm | 28-01-2011 · 2011-01-30 · ▶ watch from 6:28 to 7:03 · Buddhist Society of Western AustraliaJan 2011 Autonomy: someone wakes snorer harshly — she had disclosed domestic violence; safe enough to sleep.
- Virtue and Kindness | Ajahn Brahm | 30 May 2025 · 2025-06-10 · ▶ watch from 5:33 to 6:46 · Buddhist Society of Western AustraliaMay 2025: domestic-abuse survivor falls asleep snoring at Buddha; don't wake — pillow and blanket.
- Sorry | Ajahn Brahm | 25 June 2021 · 2021-06-25 · ▶ watch from 5:10 to 6:35 · Buddhist Society of Western AustraliaJun 2021 Sorry: domestic-abuse survivor feels safe; snores; don't wake her.
- Guided Meditation | Ajahn Brahm | 8 July 2023 · 2023-07-08 · ▶ watch from 1:22:41 to 1:23:31 · Buddhist Society of Western AustraliaJul 2023 Friday: sleeper woken; Brahm scolds the waker — domestic-violence survivor finally felt safe enough to sleep.
- Vesak Day (Afternoon) | 11 May 2025 · 2025-05-11 · ▶ watch from 3:20 to 4:32 · Buddhist Society of Western AustraliaVesak 2025: westerner lies feet-to-Buddha and snores — domestic-violence refuge.
Caption notes: Manual (volunteer) captions; occasional misspellings kept as is.
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