Story · Ajahn Brahm
Ronnie Kray's promise
Content note: named notorious criminal (Ronnie Kray); mental illness mention
The story — as told by Ajahn Brahm (verbatim captions)
One of the most notorious prisoners I ever met was was Ronnie Cray. He was actually one of the Cray twins in East London. He was the one who was the crazy one. He was actually mentally disturbed and he would do some terrible evil things to others. But when I went to see him just before I left, he said, "Ajent Brah just, you know, thanks for visiting. If I ever get a few quid, I'll send some to your monastery." He never did because he didn't have any quid. He was in died in prison.
▶ Watch Ajahn Brahm tell it from 1:08:44 (to 1:09:25)
A reflection (in the spirit of Ajahn Brahm's talk)
Ronnie Kray, one of London's most feared criminals, thanked the young monk for visiting and promised a few quid for the monastery if he ever had any. He never did, but the kindness surprised Ajahn Brahm. There's good in even the hardest people. Encouragement helps it come out, in them and in us.
In brief (our summary)
One of the most notorious prisoners he visited in England was Ronnie Kray, the mentally disturbed one of East London's Kray twins. As Ajahn Brahm left, Kray thanked him and said if he ever got a few quid he'd send some to the monastery. He never did — he never had any money and died in prison — but the kindness shocked a man brought up to think such people were simply evil.
Teaching point
Even notorious criminals have goodness that can come out given encouragement.
When this story may help
- visiting prisoners
- judging criminals
Themes
Source & credit
Told by Ajahn Brahm in Our Mind and Our Health | Ajahn Brahm | 7 July 2023 · 2023-07-08 · ▶ watch from 1:08:44 to 1:09:25 · Buddhist Society of Western Australia
7 other tellings of this story
- Having Positive Attitudes towards Everybody | Ajahn Brahm | 12 March 2021 · 2021-03-12 · ▶ watch from 11:29 to 12:05 · Buddhist Society of Western Australia2021 brief telling: 'a bit um psychotic'; shaking his hand; 'If I ever get any money, a few quid, I'll send a few quid to your monastery.'
- Kindness, Generosity and Forgiveness | Ajahn Brahm | 8 July 2022 · 2022-07-08 · ▶ watch from 10:08 to 11:27 · Buddhist Society of Western AustraliaJul 2022 telling: Broadmoor; polite handshake; promises a few quid for the monastery; no such thing as criminals — only people who have done crimes.
- Emotional Intelligence | Ajahn Brahm | 13 May 2022 · 2022-05-13 · ▶ watch from 39:02 to 39:40 · Buddhist Society of Western AustraliaMay 2022 telling: visits Ronnie Kray — surprisingly kind; offers a few quid if he gets any.
- Peace at Christmas Time | Ajahn Brahm | 18 Dec 2015 · 2015-12-19 · ▶ watch from 38:57 to 39:22 · Buddhist Society of Western AustraliaDec 2015: Broadmoor visit; Ronnie Kray promises a few quid for the monastery.
- Sense of Friendship and Community | Ajahn Brahm | 23-07-2010 · 2010-07-24 · ▶ watch from 6:06 to 6:28 · Buddhist Society of Western AustraliaJul 2010: Broadmoor with UK prison-monk; Ronnie Kray promises a couple of quid.
- Secular Buddhism and Reincarnation | Ajahn Brahm | 13 December 2024 · 2024-12-13 · ▶ watch from 19:35 to 20:08 · Buddhist Society of Western AustraliaDec 2024: Broadmoor Ronnie Kray handshake — if I get a few quid…
- MN89: Dhammacetiya Sutta - Monuments to the Dhamma | Ajahn Brahm | 13 March 2016 · 2016-03-13 · ▶ watch from 36:53 to 37:26 · Buddhist Society of Western AustraliaMN89: Broadmoor; Ronnie became a Buddhist, shook his hand, promised a few quid for the monastery, and died in jail before he could send it.
Caption notes: YouTube auto-captions: unpunctuated, words left exactly as captioned. 'Cray' = Kray (not changed).
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